tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6562217094974761636.post1363813042799475366..comments2022-11-02T05:28:16.949-04:00Comments on Check Your Premises: Ken Wilber’s All Quadrant All Levels, Spiral Dynamics and ObjectivismHenry Scuoteguazzahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17062216080138678023noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6562217094974761636.post-89587266344396354442011-07-01T15:19:19.518-04:002011-07-01T15:19:19.518-04:00I have been reading 'No Boundary' by Ken W...I have been reading 'No Boundary' by Ken Wilber and 'Introduction to objectivistic epistemology' by Rand.<br /><br />It seems Ken calls it as 'boundaries' + 'making boundaries' and rand calls it as 'identity' + 'concept formation'...<br /><br />Ken denies the existence of objective boundaries in reality (which Rand agrees too) and goes further and denies 'ego' too, for him 'unity consciousness' seems to be the only truth, all other boundaries are illusory!<br /><br />Rand picks up 'consciousness' and treats 'consciousness' + 'concepts' as 'ego' i.e is a person with conceptual faculty and concepts!!!<br /><br />Here is where both part ways:<br />Ken says 'there is no such thing as subject and object, when we hear a sound there is no hearer'<br /><br />Rand would say "godammit, consciousness is aware of it and sound is not same as consciousness"...<br /><br />Ken would say "well, can you ever find this consciousness devoid of 'awareness!', I bet you would say no..., so there we go... no subject no object...all are one"<br /><br />---<br />well, well am thoroughly confused as of now :) am only half through both books...<br /><br />hope Rand and Ken would be happy now for confusing a poor consciousness or is just confusion getting confused by itself and commenting on a blog!!?whoaminoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6562217094974761636.post-88024192330324762692009-06-25T10:53:58.490-04:002009-06-25T10:53:58.490-04:00Hi, Henry,
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